Collective Guilt

Blaming Christianity whenever someone claiming to be Christian does something wrong is like blaming vegetarianism whenever someone claiming to be vegetarian eats meat.

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12 comments

  1. NotAScientist

    “What?! That’s exactly what I’m referring to! How ridiculous is that?”

    Not that ridiculous when the book condones stoning your children to death. Or that the woman believes the world is wicked, and if she kills them before they ever sin they get to go to heaven.

    People who don’t believe there’s an afterlife wouldn’t do something like that.

    • synapticcohesion

      If she were a Christian, she would not think that it’s alright to commit murder. Just as someone who is truly a vegetarian wouldn’t be able to justify their eating meat. You can’t blame someone’s mental illness on Christianity.

      • NotAScientist

        I can blame that direction of her mental illness on Christianity. The Bible has stories of parents being told by god to kill their children. If she believed god told her that, then that’s Christianity’s fault for putting that possibility in her head.

      • synapticcohesion

        “The Bible has stories of parents being told by god to kill their children.”

        You conveniently forget that God did not permit Abraham to sacrifice his son.

        “If she believed god told her that, then that’s Christianity’s fault for putting that possibility in her head.”

        No it is her fault for not truly studying the Bible and knowing that it was a test–that God was against human sacrifice.

        Believe it or not, I’ve heard quite a few atheists speak fondly of “eating babies/babbies.” If next time some deranged mother eats her babies, shall we blame atheists for “putting that possibility in her head?”

      • NotAScientist

        “You conveniently forget that God did not permit Abraham to sacrifice his son.”

        But he did permit Jephtha to kill his daughter. And Elisha to kill some youths with a few bears.

        And he drowned the entire planet. But, whatever, I’m sure he’s a loving god.

      • synapticcohesion

        “But he did permit Jephtha to kill his daughter.”

        Really? Can you show me the passage? His sacrifice was that his daughter would be dedicated entirely to God–no burned offering necessary.

  2. Atomic Mutant

    There’s just one difference: Eating meat is exactly the opposite of vegetarianism, while “doing something wrong” is not the opposite of Christianity. So, unfortunately for you, as long as the person doing something wrong can point to a passage of the bible and this passage can be read as supporting his deed, it’s the bible’s problem – and thus, the problem of Christianity. And no, it doesn’t help that you can read the bible in another way – that’s exactly the problem. If you didn’t want that, you should have chosen a religion that’s not based on a self-contradictory, badly written, complete inconclusive book.

    • synapticcohesion

      Cheating, stealing, murder, and other crimes are contrary to Christian teachings. Yet if someone professes to be a Christian and commits any of these acts, Christianity is often blamed.

      Eating meat is contrary to vegetarianism. And if someone who claims to be a vegetarian eats fish, the individual is blamed for being a liar or for being misguided about what vegetarianism is.

      I would say that in both cases, the individual is either a liar or is misguided–wouldn’t you?

      • NotAScientist

        “Yet if someone professes to be a Christian and commits any of these acts, Christianity is often blamed. ”

        Really? Because I haven’t seen that. I’ve seen the Christians who do those things particularly reviled for being hypocrites, but I haven’t seen people blame Christianity.

        I see people blame Christianity when a mother drowns her children, or homosexuals are denied equal rights, or fundamentalists try to get their religion taught in science class.

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